Fox News Poll

Just to clarify, I'm laughing at the poll choices. It's like a much-worse version of "are you still beating your wife?"

Please.

The plan the President laid out includes the largest health care tax cut for middle class families in history and makes coverage more affordable for tens of millions of families and small business owners and expands coverage to over 31 million Americans who are currently uninsured.

This plan will give millions of Americans new choices in health insurance by making coverage more affordable, ending the denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions, putting power in the hands of consumers instead of insurance companies and providing one of the largest tax cuts in history while also reducing our national deficit.

Talking points don't lie, Bill.

http://radio.barackobama.com/

This is still my favorite:

Too many in Washington are now saying that we should delay or give up on reform entirely, but Americans understand the stakes for our economy and our lives, and we want action.

  @ your edit.

I predict you are wrong on all counts.  Well - almost all.  I think you're right that, IF the House passed it, the Senate dems would absolutely, definitely screw the House over and Obama would sign it without any of the changes promised to the House.  Actually, I don't think they'd even bother having a reconciliation vote, it would just go directly to Obama for signing.  If they actually did bother to have a pretend-vote, no one would buy it as a sincere attempt, and it would just serve to make the final signature seem less legitimate, so I doubt they'd try.

And I think everyone in the House knows it.  Which is why they won't cave.

Stupak, incidentally, says all the talk about him caving or compromising is BS:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/? … FhZTY3NjM=

Qwinn

P.S.  This is NOT to say that they won't pass it in some other underhanded way, like changing or wiping their ass with the rules (in which case there's a good chance the Supreme Court would overturn it).  But I do *not* believe that anyone in the House is going to buy a verbal unenforceable promise from the Senate to do something after it passes the House.  Even if they wanted to cave, they wouldn't risk being made fools of like that.  There's a very old rivalry between the House and the Senate that would make any such "Duuuhh, okay, we'll trust you" impossible, IMO.

Oh.  There is one other thing you are right about.  We will all be screwed.  I just don't think that's the way it'll happen.

Last edited by Qwinn (2010-03-11 09:46:56)

Stupak better cave, or he'll find himself fending off some embarrassing ethical violations of some sort.

No it's not.

Obama has delayed a trip and is staying in Mordor on the Potomac to sign the bill aftyer it goes through it's reconcilliation scam.

The Senate is going to send a "phantom" bill over to the house, where they will pass it, then lift out the phantom portion and drop in their own bill. Then they'll send it over to  Barry for a signature.

Our only hope now is State Nullification