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  • A local steel mill i call on has ceased operations till Apr1 due to several confirmed cases.
  • May I be the first to say; “Fuck Mike“.
  • Bloomberg?
  • DeWine.

    Ohio is on 2 week lock down starting tomorrow night.
  • edited March 22
    I didn't realize... My daughter's best friend and family was on a trip to Italy over winter break. When they got back, they complained of being weirdly sick. Fever and dry cough. Their house is like a second home for my daughter, she comes and goes from there so often. FWD to Feb and I was sick almost the entire month. Makes me wonder...
  • Yep. A while back after returning from LA on a Wednesday, I felt like shit so I stayed home till the following Tuesday. Fever, coughing like a freak. Locked myself in the basement.

    Felt better since then, but still constantly clearing my throat.

    It damages the lungs, so I suppose that makes sense.
  • My bosses son has been in Italy for more than a few months. Was supposed to return in April, but there was talk of him coming back early, not sure if he'd even be allowed at this point.
  • edited March 23
    2.FOH: "Yep. A while back after returning from LA on a Wednesday, I felt like shit so I stayed home till the following Tuesday. Fever, coughing like a freak. Locked myself in the basement.

    Felt better since then, but still constantly clearing my throat.

    It damages the lungs, so I suppose that makes sense."

    Still, it's cold and flu season so it could have been one of those. All I know is that for the first 2-3 weeks it was clear shit coming out of my nose. In the last week it got green and yellow so I called my doc and he prescribed me a week of amoxicillin. I was clear after that. Could'a been a cocktail of crap. Who knows?

  • "May I be the first to say; “Fuck Mike“. "

    You won't be the first or the last.
  • “You won't be the first or the last.”

    OK, the first one here. Today. After the announcement.
  • edited March 23
    I'm getting calls from clients asking if they need to shut down. Looking t the order, I see stringer statement of essentially the same policy. You can't go to Cedar Point or Outback Steakhouse, but take out on the way to a job in the trades is fine.

    http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6816967-20200322143820416.html

    In a way, this makes DeWine's loudly announced order all the more loathsome. It's the same policy with an overlay of "Now were really turning the economy down!".

    Maybe the dumbest part - childcare can stay open, but only under a special license that permits no more than six children per room. I don't know everything about children, but my sense is that hygiene and "social distancing" are foreign to them.
  • edited March 23
    Andrew McCarthy at NR:

    "It is not sustainable for government to combat the disease by ordering communal and commercial activity to cease, then trying to compensate increasingly destitute citizens by borrowing and printing money to throw at them."

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/coronavirus-response-executive-power-limits-of-law/
  • "The history of this country is one of ceding authority to the chief executive, to an extent commensurate with the public’s sense of real threat, particularly lethal threat on a mass scale."

    That about sums it up. Also, promise every Republican $1200 and they become socialist. This nation operates as boogeyman protection for hire.
  • One of the things I count as a reservation about DJT is whether he gets how economics work outside of real estate.

    This business about sending everyone a couple thousand dollars during a period of reduced productivity strikes me as inflationary, i.e. more dollars chasing fewer goods and services. Maybe the idea is that it balances out a deflationary cycle.

    Both seem worse than a bad flu season.
  • edited March 23
    So our company is considered an essential business & will remain open for the time being. I'm a bit surprised.

    It's outstanding news for the people in the plant.

    I'm relieved as well.
  • I'm not planning to sit at home, nor would I even if that order didn't have enough loopholes in it to sail a small aircraft carrier through it.

    I have over $5,000/month in overhead, not counting fuel, supplies or payroll. OR my own personal expenses.

    Unless he’s planning to pay my bills, Mike DeWine can kiss my ass.
  • Besides which, I think you are a 12(K) trade.
  • "Then there are the findings from the Diamond Princess cruise ship, on which passengers were quarantined for weeks after an outbreak.

    The researchers reviewing the data found that of the 3,711 people on board, only 17% got the disease, despite the fact all passengers were likely exposed. Of those diagnosed as having the disease, 8 have died.

    The researchers note that the population of the cruise ship was much older than the general population. In fact, a third of the passengers were 70 or older, the age group that accounted for all the deaths.

    John Ioannidis, writing for Stat News, said that based on these findings, “reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%.” In other words, very much like the seasonal flu."

    -from
    https://issuesinsights.com/2020/03/23/is-the-media-ignoring-good-news-on-coronavirus/
  • Our 28 year old county judge (rode the blue wave in 2018) just issued a stay at home order. Mindless...
  • Yes to 12(k), but there are actually multiple parts that I highlighted for a conversation with the cops if anyone gets stopped and questioned.
  • "Our 28 year old county judge (rode the blue wave in 2018) just issued a stay at home order."

    How the fuck is it the purview of a judge to make any such order?
  • edited March 24
    County Judge is just kind of a title. She's really the "mayor" of the county.

    The order is pretty laughable once I looked it over. The list of essential workers and duties is so long, I don't really see the point. We can still go to the grocery store, we can still do pick up and delivery. Construction sites are still working. Oilfield and energy sectors are still working (for what that's worth, fucking Saudis and Russians, cocksuckers).
  • Turns out my company is considered an essential service, so now I get to carry a travel document.
  • This is a very interesting op ed from two docs writing in the WSJ. It reflects a bunch of questions I have been asking myself all week, and suggests something else I have been suspecting... That this COVID-19 has been here a bit longer than we think.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464?mod=hp_opin_pos_2

    If its behind a paywall, let me know and I'll copy-pasta.
  • Rep. Mikie Sherrill (D., N.J.) expressed frustration with her Democratic colleagues at a recent town hall, admitting they block legislation because they "don't want to give the president a win."

    Speaking at a Livingston, New Jersey, town hall on Thursday, Sherrill revealed the "shockingly different mindset" of congressional Democrats who prioritize resisting President Donald Trump over passing legislation that could help their constituents.

    "When I go, you know, I've gone up to people and said, ‘I need to get this piece of legislation passed,' and they say ‘Oh yeah, we just passed it,'" Sherrill said. "I said, ‘Yeah, we just passed it. I need the Senate to pass it and I need the president to sign it,' and they said ‘Well, we don't want to give the president a win.'"
  • Paywall on that wsj article
  • "When I go, you know, I've gone up to people and said, ‘I need to get this piece of legislation passed,' and they say ‘Oh yeah, we just passed it,'" Sherrill said. "I said, ‘Yeah, we just passed it. I need the Senate to pass it and I need the president to sign it,' and they said ‘Well, we don't want to give the president a win.'"

    That's a pretty frank statement of where they've been for almost four years. It's partisan rather than ideological.

    However, the ideological mania persists. DJT notes that he has powers under the Defense Procurement Act to compel industry to produce medical gear, but he hasn't had to because each entity approached has pitched in "voluntarily". (This leaves a question about the "voluntary" quality of a request from someone who has the power to compel.) Elisa Slotkin was on "Morning Joe" a couple of minutes ago proclaiming that she had introduced to the house a bill requiring DJT to use his powers under the DPA. Her reasoning is that this kind of a crisis requires central planning, not voluntary action.

    When she was done channeling Stalin, the regulars went back to wondering whether DJT's rudeness to Romney means that DJT is "unstable". It's an amazing show.
  • IN RE: Voluntary vs Compelled

    I think that would be more of a question under a different president.

    I remember when Trump took over the Wollman rink project in New York City.

    Forbes summed it up nicely...

    “Once upon a time there was an ice skating rink in Central Park that could no longer make ice. No one could figure out how to fix the skating rink. Years went by and millions of dollars were spent and still no ice. One day a white knight wearing a bright red tie showed up and said: ‘ Let there be ice!’ Four months later there was ice. When asked by the press why the people had been unable to fix the rink themselves the knight said ‘they’re very nice people and I like them very much but they’re all idiots!’ And everyone lived happily ever after.”


    Trump didn’t know squat about building an ice rink, so he called some top Canuckians and asked them what he should do. Then he took their advice.

    Trump said he would finish the rink in less than six months for no more than $3 million.

    The city thought this was laughable since they had already spent 6 years and over $13 million getting nowhere and making a bigger mess than they started with.

    They finally agreed to let him try on the assumption that he would fail.

    (Sound familiar?)

    Trump finished the job in just four months at a final cost 25% below the budget.

    This of course enraged City Hall because it made them look like the buffoons they were; and from then on they re-double their efforts to stick it to him at every opportunity.


    The point is that Trump doesn’t do micromanagement. He values results over control and his most powerful “whip“ is that he has a reputation for not paying people who don’t deliver the work that they said they would.

    There is no way in hell that he has any intention of invoking the DPA when companies are stepping forward on their own and volunteering to help in anyway they can.


    New Yorkers intuitively understand that you do not send the leg breakers around to hassle people who are paying their Vig early.


    Democrats are not happy unless they’re micromanaging every aspect of a thing in order to ensure maximum advantage to them.

    And the Republicans…
    They are generally too feckless to either stop them or come up with better ideas of their own.
    In fact, I have long since come to believe that they don’t even want to be in power. Being out of power is an excellent way of avoiding responsibility for anything.
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