Mueller Report Thread

OK, time for a prediction.

The Mueller report is going to be redacted of certain information, which falls into any of 4 categories:

  1. Grand Jury material regarding anyone not charged.
  2. Sources and Methods related to intelligence gathering.
  3. Information related to ongoing investigations.
  4. Information that could infringe on the privacy and reputation of “peripheral third parties".

Here's where I think things will get interesting...

Barr is going to be pretty scrupulous about protecting the information that SHOULD be protected, but he's also going to want to redact as little as possible, which is going to set up an epic Easter Egg hunt.

The report is going to contain a huge amount of meta-data and it is this information that will create the next big shitstorm in the ongoing saga of the "Orange Man Bad" show.

You see, that meta-data will be subjected to forensic analysis by pretty much everyone on the left and they WILL find some unknown percentage of the information that was supposed to be private.And then they'll release it.


That's not my prediction. THIS IS my prediction...

THAT will be where the backlash begins. Or rather, the consequences of the information release will be the trigger.


How the backlash plays out I can't say, but if experience has taught me anything, there is ALWAYS a point at which the general public says; "Will you shut the fuck up already!?"

Comments

  • edited April 17
    If metadata mattered, everyone would know that if the hacking of the DNC servers was done by Russians, then the Russians somehow got into DNC building, because the recorded transfer rates were far too fast for anything other than an on-site transfer to a USB stick or something similar.  No way to get transfer speeds that fast over the internet.  None.  Physically impossible.

    In fact, the only basis for the claim that it was a Russian hack was the testimony of an IT company on the Democrat's payroll.  No one else was ever allowed to examine the server directly.

    So, the word of a company that received large amounts of money from the Democrats, with no corroborating evidence of any kind, is considered to be absolutely ironclad, and the fact that this claim would require impossible transfer rates doesn't even get mentioned.  This is the media we have to deal with.

    My bet was that Seth Rich was the inside man.  Unfortunately this line of questioning can't be pursued because his family are loyal commun... I mean, Democrats.

    How much does anyone want to bet that the issue of the transfer rates isn't mentioned in the Mueller Report, at all?
  • 1. But everyone DOES know that. Well, everyone who doesn't have their head in the sand. Point is, the fact that YOU know that is proof that meta-data  does matter.


    2. I too think that Seth Rich was the inside man.


    3. It won't likely be in the Mueller report, but IF Barr does the investigation that is needed, I believe it will come up.


    The thing that I find truly baffling is that so many people think election meddling involving ANY two or more nations is something new. The Reds have been meddling in our elections for over a century and we meddle in other people's elections. 

    And talk about collusion...
    Teddy Kennedy, Walter Mondale and Jimmy Carter all colluded with the SOVIETS, not just the Russians.
    And the Clintons...? Russia AND China...?  Don't get me started.
  • edited April 18
    I think 1 and 4 of your first list go together like PB&J. My cynical mind believes that’s the primary reason for the left’s howling demands that the report be released without redaction.
  • BTW...

    My theory is that the reason Mueller didn’t make a “traditional prosecutorial decision” is because he didn’t want to be the guy who did what Barr just did; announce that there was no actual collusion or obstruction.
  • I'll admit I haven't followed this too closely.  I don't think it will change much.

    The slur levelled at repubs is that they suffer from and are driven by phobias.  Speak in support of DOMA and you have homophobia.  Criticize some patent nonsense from a muslim congressman and you have islamo-phobia.

    But who really suffered from irrational fears?  I don't think it's a stretch to say that lots of news people exhibit a phobic reaction to DJT.  He concedes the illegal immigrant field of battle and says he will send them to "sanctuary cities", and rather than claim total victory, they howl in protest.

    They are pre-occupied with the rise of something they call "white nationalism" that seems to exist in the same way flat-earthers do, mostly in peoples' imaginations.  They fear a rising tide of violence against minorities despite a lack of evidence for that.  They decry division and intolerance, though their main message is on its face socially divisive, and genuine intolerance is most evident in places over which they exert the most control, colleges and orthodox media.

    Most conspicuously, much of the left just spent two years stoking baseless fears that the 2016 election was handed to DJT by a cooperative Russian government.  Now that the irrationality of that fear is laid out in exhaustive detail, they've decided they need to consume the last morsels of their credibility by trashing the AGs work before they even see it.

    I don't think the report will change much because information can't persuade people out of their own irrationality.
  • The actual document is worth a skim - 

    Calling it heavily redacted is, not surprisingly, untrue.


  • edited April 23
    Qwinn said:

    ...his family are loyal commun... I mean, Democrats...


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  • nbody said:

    ...I don't think it's a stretch to say that lots of news people exhibit a phobic reaction to DJT...

    If you drop your drink after seeing a turd bobbing in the punch bowl, is that reaction "phobic" or entirely healthy.



    nbody said:

    ...They are pre-occupied with the rise of something they call "white nationalism" that seems to exist in the same way flat-earthers do, mostly in peoples' imaginations...

    Or it could be all those, you know, white people chanting "Jews will not replace us" while giving Nazi salutes under tiki torch light. Add a dash of vehicular homicide for good measure.

    nbody said:

    ...Most conspicuously, much of the left just spent two years stoking baseless fears that the 2016 election was handed to DJT by a cooperative Russian government.  Now that the irrationality of that fear is laid out in exhaustive detail, they've decided they need to consume the last morsels of their credibility by trashing the AGs work before they even see it...

    The "exhaustive detail" clearly shows that the Russians made extraordinary efforts to influence this election. Perhaps it was more palatable for people to believe that that interference played a part, rather than accept the truth that a sizable minority of our fellow citizens actually thought this piss-poor excuse of a human being would actually make a good president. But hey, how 'bout them SC picks, amirite?
  • The Russians have been trying to interfere in our elections for over a century. So far, the only ones who have actually collided with them were all Democrats. (Teddy “chappy” Kennedy, Jimmy “Peanuts” Carter and Wally Mondale)

    And I don’t recall you being upset when Barry Soretoes interfered in Israel’s elections.


    As for Trump, most of the people here were not sold on him prior to 2017. In fact, most of the people here still don’t like his style. That said, he has turned out to be one of the best presidents we’ve ever had, even if he does seem to be channeling Thornton Melon. And not just because he’s already done a better job of advancing a conservative, capitalist agenda than Reagan managed to do, he’s been a better president for the working man than perhaps any president in at least the last century, possibly ever.

    I do of course understand how a Marxist ideologue such as yourself would find that upsetting.


    As for the National Socialists and their tiki torches, they are an irellavant fringe group.

    Also, there WERE good people in on both sides at that event.

    What dishonest flunked like you continuously try to gloss over or even actively hide is that while there were two SIDES there were at least FOUR distinct groups there.


    And finally, the so called “homicide”...

    The car that stupid kid was in was surrounded by angry fascists who were so ignorant of history that they thought they were FIGHTING fascism. So when the car was physically attacked by what appeared to be a baseball bat, the kid panicked, hit the gas and rear ended the car in front of him, initiating a chain reaction collision.

    The idiot who got killed would still be alive if she wasn’t essentially playing in the street.

    Have I mentioned lately how much I enjoy watching videos of ANTIFA morons getting hit by cars?
  • The guy who ran those people over at the protest is in prison for life. He was convicted of murder and dozens of other charges.
  • dgm said:

    The guy who ran those people over at the protest is in prison for life. He was convicted of murder and dozens of other charges.

    He had a shitty lawyer.
  • And another thing...

    Is it just me or does the Democrat party strategy seem to be based on the assumption nobody is going to actually READ the Mueller Report?
  • MC Escher said:

    And another thing...

    Is it just me or does the Democrat party strategy seem to be based on the assumption nobody is going to actually READ the Mueller Report?

    Would they be wrong?
  • I may have told you this before, but I got a line one evening about how GWB was appointed by the US Sup Ct who had grabbed an electoral victory from Gore on a political basis, and that the FL election should have been left in the hands of the FL court.  This line was delivered by a big firm lawyer friend.

    I asked her if she really thought the FL Sup Ct decision was defensible, and she paused.  I asked her if she had read it.  She hadn't.

    People pretending they know the qualities of documents they haven't seen is so common one can almost count on it.  So we have people who will tell you with 100% certainty that Citizens United held that corporations are people, even though it didn't do any such thing.  We have people who are sure that Heller ignored the first clause of the 2d Am. though it clearly didn't.  So now we will have people who never laid eyes on the report assuring us that it contains ample evidence of obstruction of justice.
  • It really is time for a revolution. The bloody kind.

    But first, a few years of Socialism, so all the idiots can get good and miserable.
  • Someone asked me recently what was wrong with the country and I told her it was because people like her vote.

    Then I had to explain that it was because most people are political dilettantes.

    Not sure it helped.
  • edited April 24
    vtool:  "Communists.  Communists Everywhere."

    So, it's okay to drag the country into a 3 year hyperventilating drama and impeachment attempts over the existence of Russians under every bed, which even survives the release of the investigation disproving it, but it's still paranoid to suspect Communist influence.

    Seriously.

    Too f'ing funny.

    Question - between 1917 and 1991, when the Russians *were* Communists, and conservatives suspected their interference and influence while Democrats ran cover for them -every single time-, were the conservatives right or wrong? 

    Cause it sure sounds like Russians are everywhere, and a dire threat, *unless* they're Communist in which case they're harmless and any concern about them is paranoid.  I'd really love to hear how exactly you work that out in your empty hollow vacuum of a skull as making any sense at all.
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